Hello , my dd only last 2 hours during the day and crashes out ok no problems usually.... however night times are so so hard to get her to sleep. we have allways has some problems are night....and seem to have tried everything...
I have just been giving up when she is screaming...unswaddle her and turn on the lights. I just cant stand the full on screaming.....take her to lounge room she seems happy for ten minutes then it starts again....
I am breast feeding and she does not want the bottle this week for some reason....

does anyone else have similar problems.? I tell ya it does my head in so tiring....
I have tried heaps of sleep in the day and not alot of sleep seems like nothing works.....
she wakes at seven and has a total of 3 hours sleep in the day up till about sixish.....We are on the contented baby routine...
does anyone else have any ideas that could help

i don't know what the contented routine is but have you tried putting her to bed with some baby music, white noise is quite good, a dummy, a sofy blanket (secure ennough so it can;t go over her head)? maybe rocking her to sleep every now and then.
i tried a routine but couldn't get it to work, my DD just does her own thing. (oh, and my book reckons she shouls be sleeping 10 hours a night pfffft)

I may be wrong but it doesn't seem like she is getting enough sleep during the day. I am sure my bubs were having way more sleep than this at 4months. I have always found that a baby that does not get enough sleep during day is way more unsettled at night as the tiredness has a cumulative effect. Something to think about.

I used an ergo with DS2 when we were out so he never missed any sleep. He was never difficult to settle at night. I am sure this was because he never got overtired.

If you don't know the tired signs then google them. Hope this helps.

The other thing my bubs did towards end of day was cluster feed, which is lots and lots of feeds as bubs is preparing for a long sleep.

cool thanks guys....she cluster feeds at end of night how much sleep does she need? any hints or tips great
she does sleep solid at night , its just hard to her to bed...

Our 4 month old is also acting like this! She sleeps ok in the day although I usually need to assist her in sleeping more than one sleep cycle, as she doesn't on her own often. At night, we have a routine of bath, feed, book then we hold her for a while, lay her down in our arms with dummy then put her in her bassinet when drowsy. She seems to know now what is happening so after the book, starts screaming and kicking her legs! We have to take her out of the room or outside to calm her enough to take the dummy. I read an article that said by the end of the day babies can be so overstimulated that they just need to release stress and crying is how they do it. They said to compare it to how we feel ,as adults, when we have had a rough day and just want to vent by communicating to a partner or friend. They suggested for the baby, leaving the dummy out and letting her get rid of her stress. It is not leaving her to cry as you are still holding her. They even suggested that this will help them to communicate with you better when they are older, as you listened to them when they were a baby! I kind of liked this article as it made me remember that crying isn't always pain, distress or sadness in babies, it's how they talk to us.
We tried this last night. She cried for a couple of minutes, then was ready for settling down and sleeping! Less stress for Mum and Dad to as we just viewed it in a different way to the way we normally do.

Not sure this helps but know it has for us.

Sometimes my 9 week old has a cry that kind of sounds like talking late in the evening so I agree that not all crying is for pain etc. I just hold her give her a cuddle, rub her back and talk back to her saying it's ok it's not all that bad and she babbles back to me whilst still being upset but not really crying just whinging. After a short time doing this she is usually tired. I top her up with a feed burp her and wrap her and she usually sleeps. For us her unsettled time is from 6pm sometimes until 10pm.

Hi,

If she is able to self settle (does during the day I think you said) then it might not be a self settling problem. My DD2 did something similar, we went to sleep school when she was 10weeks old. So I learnt comfort settling which does invole crying but not if they sound distressed. The huggies website has a similar suggestion. Anyway at around 4 months she started being difficult at night to put to bed (was fine during the day) and then one night we did her routine as normal and left her to cry a little bit more, after a few minutes (which seems like ages!) she stopped. I think for my girl it is that they learn to protest alot louder around that age rather than a small winge. I totally understand if you cant listen to it though, it is really hard. Good luck, she is 10 months now and still throws a curly one now and then, just when you have them figured out they change!